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SuperKing BigNuts
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Posted - 2013.05.29 02:37:00 -
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I have seen tears from both sides of the field concerning this influx of ISK people didnt earn.
Some folks, like CRONUS wanted the isk removed because it took away the edge of their 'metagame' in PC
But most folks seem to want to keep the isk, because it somehow makes the game fun? or makes up for the previous *FEATURES* that have plauged this game for so long?
Am i the only one whos tired of realizing that the magic of murdering someones 3m isk tank 5 times in the same battle is no longer there?
I only came into uprising with about 150m ISK from the approximately 100 logistics dropships that i couldnt use(other stuff was there, but that seemed to be the largest single source of income)... and the amount of proto suits that isk could afford... the amount of top tiered tanks i could burn... i feel no thrill for dropping a 100k isk suit into a battle... i dont feel bad for corp mates losing a 3m isk dropship... i feel no joy for destroying someones tank... no pain for losing a shiny market item...
i felt the isk influx from uprising was bad enough, the additional 100m+ so many people seemed to have received just ruins any progress weve made at balancing the economy for the last month...
to illustrate my point, with the 300m i currently have, i could afford an estimated 2,000 proto suits at 150k isk/loadout... at 10 deaths a match, 15 minutes/ambush, and 200k isk reward per battle, in 50 hours of play that is 200 battles to run out of suits, a casual gamer would take what? 3-4 weeks to get that many hours in?, and end up with 40m for another 150 some odd suits, another 20 battles. all this assuming an excessively bad loss rate of 10 protosuits/battle... where is the fun in killing such a terrible players proto suits if he doesnt learn anything for over 4 weeks... where is the achievement of scrounging the isk up for a new corps first clone pack to do PC?
where is the meaning in death if we arent allowed to suffer any penalties for being bad? if you really think this isk is good for your enjoyment, why dont we ask them to make crackdeals with call of honor designers to get unlimited gear everywhere for everyone... scrap militia, basic and advanced gear and just make it ALL PROTO ALL THE TIME! scrap the fitting limitations too so that we can fit TOTAL PROTO!!!! |
SuperKing BigNuts
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:21:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:The thing is, what about when EvE transfers are allowed? It will be the same thing only worse. When people found out about it during closed beta billions were transfered in seconds.
heh... as much as i hate to admit it... i know this to be a pending issue... ive been warning that if i were allowed to transfer isk from EVE to DUST, i would never not run proto gear...
100m ISK/hour is not unheard of in EVE, you can make this much in empire without major risk of PVP... god forbid you know a miner-alt fleet operation that pulls in approximately 400m ISK/hour worth of ore(14 hulks, 1 combat ship, 2 rorqs... 1 player)...
if they want DUST to not just be spammed by isk from EVE, they will have to increase the payouts and the prices of DUST to reflect somewhat relative numbers to EVE... but then your going to have dust pulling too much isk to be used as an effective ISK sink...
thank god they have a staff economist(or at least had) who knows more about this than i do... |
SuperKing BigNuts
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Posted - 2013.05.29 12:16:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:No one gets to keep any ISK, so why this thread?
derp
the isk was supposed to be fixed with yesterdays hotfix... a hotfix and downtime later... i still have it and it annoys me.
if you boil it down to the core, this is a tears thread.
i just wanted to see if i was the only one tired of my deaths and kills not having any impact due to the shattered econ caused by the influx of isk.
and someone raised a valid point about the rookies having a harder time than the vet players. having to farm out their SP to get to proto, then the isk to maintain it, its only going ot cause them to champion harder for a matchmaking system thats going to ruin the sandbox and turn it into instanced battles...
matchmaking is something else that i feel will ruin this game, especially in pub matches... but thats a whole other rant... |
SuperKing BigNuts
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Posted - 2013.05.29 13:12:00 -
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once EVERY PC system opens up, theres going to be fewer battles, the corporations owning them will have more time for the planets to actually make money, and it will be an isk printer... its only going to get worse as far as i have seen.
if it werent for PC, yes, peoples wallets would stabilize... but due to PC, its not going to get much if any better for the foreseeable future. |
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